Rusi nemaju nikakve šanse protiv F-35

Ja sam nešto jucer proucavao riječnu plovidbu ....jbga nama je ta Rumunjska kao neka daleka zemlja a u u osnovi Dunav važan plovidbeni pravac i luka Konstanta i jbte cim tu izađeš odma Krim nasuprot......u prevodu mi u Hr mislimo da je to daleko al to je u suštini tu.

Sama Srbija je zaleđe tim NATO državama tamo : Rumunjska i BUgarska ....zato to Putinu igra tj da im se nalazi s leđa a ne radi ovih balkanskih trzavica.

[size=30]With new radar the PAK FA fighter can detect any stealth aircraft[/size]

January 21, 2016 [url=http://rbth.com/author/Alexander Korolkov]ALEXANDER KOROLKOV[/url], [url=http://rbth.com/author/special to RBTH]SPECIAL TO RBTH[/url]

In the early 2020s, Russia's fifth-generation PAK FA fighter jet could get a photonics-based radar system using active radio-optical phased array technology (known by its Russian acronym ROFAR). It would be capable of viewing stealth aircraft at distances beyond the range of air-to-air missiles.

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A working model of the new radar, which is being developed by the Russian state-owned Radio-Electronic Technologies (KRET) firm, should be presented by the end of 2018.

The main advantage of ROFAR technology is its width of transmission frequency. Whereas the transmission frequency of a modern radar system is at most 10 GHz, with ROFAR it can reach 100 GHz.

How does ROFAR work?

“In practice, this means that ROFAR can produce a detailed 3D image of what is happening hundreds of kilometers away,” said Vladimir Mikheyev, advisor to KRET's first deputy CEO. “For example, at 400 kilometers it can not only see a person, but even recognize their face.”

The exhibition stand of the KRET at the opening of the MAKS 2015. Source: Mikhail Voskresenskiy/RIA Novosti

According to KRET, the future radio-optical phased array antenna known as ROFAR will be half the weight of the conventional radar system currently being developed for the fifth-generation fighter. At the same time, its resolution will be 10 times better, making it possible to “virtually get a TV picture in the radar range.”

Additional advantages

The use of radio-frequency photonic technology allows for a significant reduction of aircraft detectability within the infrared spectrum and of fuel consumption. This is possible due to the high efficiency of the future radar system, which will produce several times less heat, so developers will not have to include an additional powerful cooling system, which would significantly increase the mass of the product and require electricity generated by the aircraft's engines at the cost of burning fuel.


Russia close to completing its F-22 aircraft rival

In addition, it will not be possible to block ROFAR through high-power jamming. For this, the range of the electronic warfare system must be greater than that of the radio receiver, which is physically impossible with photonics-based radar.

If the ROFAR project is successfully completed, the technology will not only be used for airborne radar systems. According to Mikheyev, equipping new or existing Russian naval ships with ROFAR would make it possible to reduce the weight and size of their onboard antenna systems by approximately 80-85 percent.

A fly in the ointment

The announcements from Russian manufacturers sound optimistic, but economic realities, shortcomings in organization and management and difficulties with training and recruiting personnel could hinder the implementation of their ideas. Russia still has difficulties mass-producing airborne active electronically scanned array (AESA) radar systems like those the U.S. already has not only on its fifth-generation F-22 and F-35 fighter aircraft, but also on its upgraded fourth-generation F-16 and F-15 fighters. The only Russian AESA radar system, Zhuk-A, created for the MiG-35, was first presented back in 2009, but as at the end of 2015 was still at the testing stage.

According to KRET, the Russian government has allocated 680 million rubles (about $8.4 million) to the entire ROFAR program. By comparison, the U.S. Department of Defense allocated $110 million dollars to photonics back in 2014, and plans to raise at least as much from private investors.

It is not just Russia and the U.S. who are involved in this technology race. For example, scientists from Italy presented a working model of a photonics-based radar system back in March 2013. And Jean-Loïc Galle, the executive vice president at France's Thales Group, has announced that it is stepping up its work in this area.

With such global competition, the announcements from Russia's KRET that working technology is to be created in the very near future sound almost like a challenge and represent a further test of the capabilities of Russia's defense industry.

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http://rbth.com/defence/2016/01/21/with-new-radar-the-pak-fa-fighter-can-detect-any-stealth-aircraft_561275
  

s tim da sada tim radarima su opremili vecinu Su-30,34,35 MiG-29,35

Svetac sve je to divno i krasno al američki general nije rekao to nego je rekao da kad bi Rusi sa svojim avionima htjeli na Europu dakle u zonu gdje oni nemaju svoje radare da bi ih ovi nevidljivi slistili jer imaju prednost ipak u toj situaciji gdje Rus dolazi a nema radare u toj zoni okolo da prati nebo.

Longi,ne pratis..Govorim o AESA radarima NA AVIONIMA Su-30,34,35 i MiG 29,35...kujiš?

osim toga,Rusi prvo gaze tenkovima..ebo ti "prevlast" u zraku..   bla,bla,bla...
odog zderati..pa u skitnju..

RayMabus wrote:Svetac sve je to divno i krasno al američki general nije rekao to nego je rekao da kad bi Rusi sa svojim avionima htjeli na Europu dakle u zonu gdje oni nemaju svoje radare da bi ih ovi nevidljivi slistili jer imaju prednost ipak u toj situaciji gdje Rus dolazi a nema radare u toj zoni okolo da prati nebo.

Amerikanci su stavili dva Raptora u RUmunjsku i to je sredstvo odvracanja. Americki general uopce ne prica o tome da oni napadaju RUsiju nego kad bi ovi krenili na Europu da bi bili slišteni i to je tocno jer nemaju radare u toj zoni.


Američko zrakoplovstvo dopremilo je 12 letjelica tog tipa u bazu na istoku Engleske. Zapad želi osnažiti obranu istočnog krila NATO-a i uvjeriti saveznike na istoku Europe, poput Poljske, baltičkih zemalja i Češke da, stoji uz njih.


http://net.hr/danas/svijet/raptori-kao-zracna-podrska-sad-poslao-ove-supermoderne-avione-istocnim-saveznicima-koji-se-boje-rusije/

bogomdani wrote:Longi,ne pratis..Govorim o AESA radarima NA AVIONIMA Su-30,34,35 i MiG 29,35...kujiš?

Znam o čemu govoriš al čitaj tekst s razmijevanjem : uopce se ne prica o napadu na Rusiju nego o odvracanju ruske avijacije za napad na Europu ....to su dvije razlicite stvari.

bogomdani wrote:

Srbi su oborili F-117 obicnim radarima,koji su "osvjetljavali" nebo iz vise pravaca i bili u vezi,odnosno umrezeni...a to je bilo 20 godna prije,karikiram--

Unknown to NATO, Yugoslav air defenses operators had found they could detect F-117s with their obsolete Soviet radars after some modifications.[3] In 2005, Colonel Zoltán Dani confirmed this in an interview, suggesting that those modifications involved using long wavelengths, which allowed them to detect the aircraft when the wheel well or bomb bay doors were open.[4] In addition, the Serbs had also intercepted and deciphered some NATO communications, and thus were able to deploy their anti-air batteries at positions best suited to intercept NATO planes.[4]

On 27 March 1999, the 3rd Battalion of the 250th Air Defence Missile Brigade of the Army of Yugoslavia, under the command of Colonel Dani, downed F-117 Air Force serial number 82-0806, callsign "Vega 31".[2][5]

The Army of Yugoslavia unit was equipped with a Yugoslav version of the Soviet Isayev S-125 "Neva" missile system (NATO reporting name, SA-3 "Goa").[Note 1][1][2][6]

At about 8:15 pm local time, with a range of about 8 miles (13 km) several missiles were launched. According to Sergeant Dragan Matić, who was identified in 2009 as the soldier who fired the missiles, they detected the F-117 at a range of about 50 to 60 kilometres (31 to 37 mi), operating their equipment for no more than 17 seconds to avoid being locked on to by NATO anti-air suppression.[2] According to Dani in a 2007 interview, his troops spotted the aircraft on radar when its bomb-bay doors opened, raising its radar signature

Sve ok al i ta situacija vezana uz Srbiju je napad a ne odvracanje ....a u tekstu se izričito govori o odvracanju tj kad bi oni Rusi krenili ovamo bla bla bla .....to su dvije razlicite stvari tj jel oni krecu ovamo il ovi idu na Rusiju a ovaj ne prica o tome da oni idu na Rusiju nego ovo drugo tj kad bi oni krenili na Europu.

bogomdani wrote:

marcellus wrote:

bogomdani wrote:u dog-fajtu,zaboravi..F-35 je leteca svinja,u usporedbi sa cistokrvnim air superioritijima Sukhoia 30,34,35,MiG-29,35...

doduše mali je bed što već 50 godina nije došlo do pravog dogfighta u zračnim bitkama... u dogfightu ga je lako srušit, samo je problem približit mu se da te ne sruši. Cijela ideja F35 je da lete u formaciji, nikad sami, i da onaj iza uključi radar, proslijedi podatke onom naprijed, i taj naprijed gađa cilj prije nego cilj skuži da je taj uopće blizu. Jasno, stvar pada u vodu ako rusi slože radar koji može otkriti f35... u tom slučaju je leteća patka za odstrel

stoji,no prouci AESA radare..tima nis ne promice,pogotovo ako su umrezeni,a rusi su to uspjeli napraviti i na najnovijim modelima Su-34,35 i F-50
Ponavljam,niti jedan avion nije nevidljiv Aesa radaru,cak niti obicnom,ali mu je smanjen bitno odraz..

Srbi su oborili F-117 obicnim radarima,koji su "osvjetljavali" nebo iz vise pravaca i bili u vezi,odnosno umrezeni...a to je bilo 20 godna prije,karikiram--

Srbi su oborili F-117 jer su u NATO savezu bili prearoganti pa su letjeli uvijek u istom koridoru, i zato jer je ovaj otvorio vrata za bombe. Zbog toga su ga srušili i ničega drugog.

bogomdani wrote:osim toga,Rusi prvo gaze tenkovima..ebo ti "prevlast" u zraku..   bla,bla,bla...
odog zderati..pa u skitnju..

Ajme...velis jebo zračnu premoć kad imaš limenke...

Moš mislit. Da ne bi bilo kao i Srbima. Oprostite, nismo znali da je nevidljiv.