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Post by n_razbojnik Sat 2 Jul - 7:08

napisa momak svašta...ali vrlo zrelo i europski desno razmišlja, rekao bih, baš da vidim jel se epi na respiratoru slaže

http://www.sloboda.hr/frano-cirko-napustam-hrvatsku-cistu-stranku-prava/

mada...mlad je pa hajd' ali je prvi vikao kako se super ekstra što su se uvalili pod adezeov domoljubni suncobran i da je to ful kul...e't na svojoj koži naučio šta stožerna domoljubija radi od pravaških prirepaka

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Post by n_razbojnik Sat 2 Jul - 7:09

možda mu druženje s Jobbikom otvorilo vidike :^0

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Post by jastreb Sat 2 Jul - 8:11

Mislim da Frano odlazi iz sasvim drugih razloga. :)

O tome će bolje i više znati reći Iknar je gay. :P
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Post by n_razbojnik Sat 2 Jul - 8:19

Pa dao je sasvim legitimne i iskrene razloge...sad koji su najskriveniji motivi nećemo znati, možda se upiše u rastuću crnokošuljašku organizaciju unutar SDPa pa otkrije više o sebi

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Post by RayMabus Sat 2 Jul - 9:41

Uz spomenute unutarnje faktore, pravašku razjedinjenost potiču i vanjski faktori (iako su unutarnji sasvim dovoljni). Ovdje glavnu ulogu, vrlo jasno, još od 1990. godine igra HDZ koji je u ovih 25 godina radio sve da pravaštvo drži čvrsto pod kontrolom: dijelio, ubacivao, osnivao, pa čak i ubijao. Najnoviji alat u toj igri jest stranka HSP-AS koja je osnovana, financirana, kadrovirana i politički uzdignuta direktno od strane HDZ-a. Nakon godina razbijanja pravaštva, HDZ je odlučio krenuti u novu fazu kontrole pravaštva, a to je osnivanje vlastite pravaške stranke i umjetno dizanje njene političke moći. I zaista, danas HSP-AS ima klub zastupnika u Hrvatskom saboru, no taj klub zastupnika nije ostvaren kao produkt potpore naroda, već kao produkt političke odluke HDZ-a (dva čelnika HSP-a AS su čvrsto zauzeli začelja na listama kandidata Domoljubne koalicije, dobivši zajedno manje od 3 tisuće glasova). No, koliko god mi dokazivali umjetnost HSP-AS-ovog pravaštva, u javnosti je HSP-AS pravaška stranka (i to „najjača“) koja se od ostalih pravaških stranaka razlikuje u dva slova. Naravno, dok god HSP-AS posjeduje neku političku snagu (umjetnu ili pravu), pravaško ujedinjenje bez te stranke neće biti cjelovito. Upravo zato što je ta stranka direktni projekt HDZ-a, kojemu pravaško ujedinjenje ne dolazi u obzir, to je također jedan od razloga zašto do pravaškog ujedinjenja neće nikada doći.
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Post by RayMabus Sat 2 Jul - 9:49

n_razbojnik wrote:napisa momak svašta...ali vrlo zrelo i europski desno razmišlja, rekao bih, baš da vidim jel se epi na respiratoru slaže

http://www.sloboda.hr/frano-cirko-napustam-hrvatsku-cistu-stranku-prava/

mada...mlad je pa hajd' ali je prvi vikao kako se super ekstra što su se uvalili pod adezeov domoljubni suncobran i da je to ful kul...e't na svojoj koži naučio šta stožerna domoljubija radi od pravaških prirepaka
Dobar tekst.
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Post by kic Sat 2 Jul - 10:13

n_razbojnik wrote:Pa dao je sasvim legitimne i iskrene razloge...sad koji su najskriveniji motivi nećemo znati, možda se upiše u rastuću crnokošuljašku organizaciju unutar SDPa pa otkrije više o sebi

ja vidim samo egoistične razloga, nikakve ideje za budućnost.. nek osnuje stranku pa ćemo vidjeti na čemu je..
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Post by epikur37 Sat 2 Jul - 10:18

aj kad uhvatim vremena pročitat ću, premda su pravaši profulana investicija
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Post by epikur37 Sat 2 Jul - 10:29

Evo pročitao sam, nije loše napisao dečko...

Zasrali su s orjunom, srbima, komunjarama i udbo-partizanskim falangama...na žalost i ovdje na forumu ima ne mali broj tzv.- desnice koja se u istom blatu valja cijelo vrijeme.

Ne samo pravaštvo koje je retardirano nego i desnica općenito u nas nema nikakav politički potencijal za sadašnje probleme. ona je karikatura s opasnim potencijalom



Hrvatski put i sudbina je ljevica.

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Post by n_razbojnik Sat 2 Jul - 10:32

kic wrote:
n_razbojnik wrote:Pa dao je sasvim legitimne i iskrene razloge...sad koji su najskriveniji motivi nećemo znati, možda se upiše u rastuću crnokošuljašku organizaciju unutar SDPa pa otkrije više o sebi
ja vidim samo egoistične razloga, nikakve ideje za budućnost.. nek osnuje stranku pa ćemo vidjeti na čemu je..
Jest, baš fali jedna prava pravaška partija :^0 ali ova će biti "ta" :aw

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Post by kic Sat 2 Jul - 10:37

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Identitarian_movement

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ovo je budućnost desnice
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Post by kic Sat 2 Jul - 10:38

https://www.instagram.com/martinsellner/

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Post by n_razbojnik Sat 2 Jul - 10:40

ti previše gledaš onog blondog vikinga i njegov jubito kanal...shvatit' će svi oni da je problem u velikosrbima

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Post by kic Sat 2 Jul - 10:42

Otiš'o Frano Aaa50b01de1b40f1a1d50cc097da3325

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Post by n_razbojnik Sat 2 Jul - 10:43

kic wrote:https://www.instagram.com/martinsellner/

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neki trendi kul desničar...đe mu obrijana glava?

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Post by Ero Sat 2 Jul - 10:47

kic wrote:Otiš'o Frano Aaa50b01de1b40f1a1d50cc097da3325

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Post by kic Sat 2 Jul - 10:49

The Identitarian Movement reopens ideas that have been already expressed. Alain de Benoist as a member of GRECE (Groupement de recherché et d`étude pour la civilisation européene; founded in France in 1969) has been supporting the anti-egalitarian ideology. His position is built on the premise that no single human being is the same, each human being is original. This stands against Christian universalism. More, Benoist has believed in laws of nature and imperatives of social organisation. From this position, egalitarianism in society is not possible. The European society should return in times before Christian times, in Pagan times. In these times Europe can find itself again and can restore old orders. (Milza 2005) The ideology of GRECE also supported the biological differences based on genetics. According to genetics human beings are unique, not equal. GRECE did not promoted the idea of biological racism, the members were very careful do not mention anything about superiority of the IndoEuropean race. But the belief in Aryan roots and fascination by social Darwinism and social organisation according to laws of nature was obvious.

Benoist also says that human being does not exist in the form of universal and abstract entity. We cannot separate existence of human being from society and social groups they belong into. Modernity destroyed ties of individuals with family, local, corporative or religious community. Modernity made people more lonely and vulnerable. This can be “repaired” only through return to communities and organic society.
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Post by kic Sat 2 Jul - 10:53

From this comes the idea of post-modernist conception of new radical right which stresses respect to differences which is seen as an opposite to universalistic racism and also as an opposite to “racist anti-racism”. Benoist makes parallel between “genocide” caused by racists and “ethnocide” caused by so called anti-racists. The right way goes through rejection of exclusiveness and assimilation as well. This leads to the promotion ofethnopluralism. Ethnopluralism negates any hierarchy in races. It is based on acceptance of existence of different cultures, nations or societies in the world, but not interconnected in the sense of mixing of the cultures or nations. They should stay separated.

The idea of ethnopluralism we know already also from earlier times. For example Carl Smitt promoted ethnopluralism as a part of so called identitarian democracy (identitäre Demokratie). He opposed to pluralism of interests and pluralistic democracy. Instead of it he promoted democracy based on identity. Smitt defined himself as an opponent of universal human rights and replaced it by ethnopluralism. He saw
homogeneity as s needed element for promoting interests of the state and nation. Homogeneity (inner homogeneity) was understood by him as an element belonging to democracy. Pluralism meant danger for the state and its sovereignty. From this comes the idea of distinguishing between democracy and parlamentarism. Democracy can exist without parlamentarism.
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Post by kic Sat 2 Jul - 10:57

The Identitarian Movement defines its ideological approach as one of ethnopluralism. It recognizes freedom of every nation and the opportunity for self-realization of every nation and culture, but never at the expense of another nation. It demands the separation of individual nations and hence rejects immigration. Externally, towards the public, members offer the following slogan: “0% racism 100% identity.” The Identitarians’ vocabulary includes the term “Alter-Europeans” which they use to demand a unified but not standardized Europe. The group is critical of the European Union and calls for an alternative Europe composed of free European nations. They reject the European Union bureaucracy and also ideological setting which promotes liberalism, capitalism, globalization and universalism. Based on ethnic nationalism and euroscepticism the movement opposes the European Union as a source and active supporter of globalization which is understood as the moving force for multiculturalism and immigration. The European Union causes by this melting of nations and national identities
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Post by kic Sat 2 Jul - 10:59

You should finally realise we don’t live in a unified world or a global village. War victims, the poor and the
repressed will always be with us. This world will never be a paradise on Earth.
Your delusions have achieved only one thing: you’ve uprooted your own children.
We’re lost and homeless. “Who are we?” we ask ourselves. “Where are we going?”
(…)
We look for our identity and find it in the ruins of your destructive fury. We have to dig deep to rediscover
ourselves.
Our history, our homeland and culture give us what you took away from us.
We don’t want to be cosmopolitan. We’re happier in our own countries
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