pre 36 god.u nišu napravljen touch-screen

nije bitno ko i gde je napravljen
tuzno je gde smo bili
sta smo mogli
a gde smo danas

To ovi Zuti, kod njih su ti tajkuni se bogatili preko noci a obican covek nije imao ni za hleb a ni posao. Ne znam u Ukrajini kako je funkcionisalo, ali je Srbija bila u rukama tajkuna. Zasto su oni propali, ima tu vise od tudje krivice. Mogli su te TV na kredit i rate da daju ljudima. Sada TV kostaju toliko malo da ako nisu propali tada, propali bi sada. Gledam TV 55 inchi, neki Japanac dobra marka 269 ili 299 eura. Mislim se, sverceri iz Minhena nisu bili ispod 1000 Deutsche mark da ti posalju i donesu neki Grunding i slicno. Video Rekorder nije bio ispod 1000 Deutsche mark. Onda se otvorili Free Shop-ovi, pa uleteo Goldstar, bio oko 900 Deutsche mark. Bio neki Duty Free na Marakani, mi posle treninga gledamo, ne znamo sta cemo sa sobom. Nije to sve tako lako. Oni da su napravili video rekorder, izvukli bi mozda i Jugoslaviju od rata, podele novac politicarima, kurve, nema tu rata. Ovako, nisu oni mogli nista sa touch screen, mozda u vojnoj industriji ili traktori i slicno da se izreklamiraju. Neki iz Cikaga, sve je to smesno a gigant.

Tada je sve bilo skupo, jedna Adidas Tango lopta 100 Deutsche mark. Kasnije uletela Globalizacija, zatvorila Ei Nis po Zapadu i krenula prica sa Azijom. Lopta Tango vise nije kostala 100 Deutsche mark, vec si imao za 15-20 Deutsche mark i mogao si sve da kupis. To je nakon raspada Jugoslavije. Zatim su neki pomislili da eto sada mogu vise, ali to je zbog selidbe industrije u Aziju.

Serbinho-3 wrote:To ovi Zuti, kod njih su ti tajkuni se bogatili preko noci a obican covek nije imao ni za hleb a ni posao. Ne znam u Ukrajini kako je funkcionisalo, ali je Srbija bila u rukama tajkuna. Zasto su oni propali, ima tu vise od tudje krivice. Mogli su te TV na kredit i rate da daju ljudima. Sada TV kostaju toliko malo da ako nisu propali tada, propali bi sada. Gledam TV 55 inchi, neki Japanac dobra marka 269 ili 299 eura. Mislim se, sverceri iz Minhena nisu bili ispod 1000 Deutsche mark da ti posalju i donesu neki Grunding i slicno. Video Rekorder nije bio ispod 1000 Deutsche mark. Onda se otvorili Free Shop-ovi, pa uleteo Goldstar, bio oko 900 Deutsche mark. Bio neki Duty Free na Marakani, mi posle treninga gledamo, ne znamo sta cemo sa sobom. Nije to sve tako lako. Oni da su napravili video rekorder, izvukli bi mozda i Jugoslaviju od rata, podele novac politicarima, kurve, nema tu rata. Ovako, nisu oni mogli nista sa touch screen, mozda u vojnoj industriji ili traktori i slicno da se izreklamiraju. Neki iz Cikaga, sve je to smesno a gigant.

BelosvetskiBelosvetski čovečečoveče... Pa ni za vrijeme yuge se GRUNDIG nije izgovaralo grunding...  Dibro ti si ipak stručniji u markama gaća

Serbinho-3 wrote:Tada je sve bilo skupo, jedna Adidas Tango lopta 100 Deutsche mark. Kasnije uletela Globalizacija, zatvorila Ei Nis po Zapadu i krenula prica sa Azijom. Lopta Tango vise nije kostala 100 Deutsche mark, vec si imao za 15-20 Deutsche mark i mogao si sve da kupis. To je nakon raspada Jugoslavije. Zatim su neki pomislili da eto sada mogu vise, ali to je zbog selidbe industrije u Aziju.

Opet lupaš, nije se tada industrija preselila, nego 25 godina ranije...

michaellcmacha wrote:

Serbinho-3 wrote:To ovi Zuti, kod njih su ti tajkuni se bogatili preko noci a obican covek nije imao ni za hleb a ni posao. Ne znam u Ukrajini kako je funkcionisalo, ali je Srbija bila u rukama tajkuna. Zasto su oni propali, ima tu vise od tudje krivice. Mogli su te TV na kredit i rate da daju ljudima. Sada TV kostaju toliko malo da ako nisu propali tada, propali bi sada. Gledam TV 55 inchi, neki Japanac dobra marka 269 ili 299 eura. Mislim se, sverceri iz Minhena nisu bili ispod 1000 Deutsche mark da ti posalju i donesu neki Grunding i slicno. Video Rekorder nije bio ispod 1000 Deutsche mark. Onda se otvorili Free Shop-ovi, pa uleteo Goldstar, bio oko 900 Deutsche mark. Bio neki Duty Free na Marakani, mi posle treninga gledamo, ne znamo sta cemo sa sobom. Nije to sve tako lako. Oni da su napravili video rekorder, izvukli bi mozda i Jugoslaviju od rata, podele novac politicarima, kurve, nema tu rata. Ovako, nisu oni mogli nista sa touch screen, mozda u vojnoj industriji ili traktori i slicno da se izreklamiraju. Neki iz Cikaga, sve je to smesno a gigant.

BelosvetskiBelosvetski čovečečoveče... Pa ni za vrijeme yuge se GRUNDIG nije izgovaralo grunding...  Dibro ti si ipak stručniji u markama gaća

Imam neku veliku kesetinu, unutra barem 70 primeraka gaca, kako bi to Miha po Srpski rekao. Jedan par gaca ide i po 85 eura. To mu dodje otprilike 5 i po soma maco, nista Socijalno, nista topli obrok. Te nisam ni koristio, novo, zaboravio i da postoje, koristin druge. Samo moje gace vrede vise nego tvoj Hrvatski San, tuzno, ali istinito. Ja se nisam borio za nikoga, ali 5 i po soma samo u gacama. Vise vrede gace, nego oni nasi biznismeni iz Cikaga, sve na potpis kredit ekipa. Gace su zapravo simbolika, smejao se ti ili ne. Nekome politicar neda nista a klima i tapse a neko u kesi ima 5 i po soma u gacama.

Miha zvuci kao da je sa Dorcola, jedini koji ovde izgleda Hrvat, jeste Mentalitet, ostali Hrvatskim i ne komuniciraju ili se to samo meni cini.

In 1965 E.A. Johnson invented, what is generally considered the first finger driven touchscreen. Published in Electronic Letters, Johnson's article “Touch display – a novel input/output device for computers” outlined a type of touchscreen that many personal devices today use; capacitive touch

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Touchscreen

One predecessor of the modern touch screen includes stylus based systems. In 1946, a patent was filed by Philco Company for a stylus designed for sports telecasting which, when placed against an intermediate cathode ray tube display (CRT) would amplify and add to the original signal. Effectively, this was used for temporarily drawing arrows or circles onto a live television broadcast, as described in US 2487641A, Denk, William E, "Electronic pointer for television images", issued 1949-11-08.

Later inventions built upon this system to free telewriting styli from their mechanical bindings. By transcribing what a user draws onto a computer, it could be saved for future use. See US 3089918A, Graham, Robert E, "Telewriting apparatus", issued 1963-05-14.

The first version of a touchscreen which operated independently of the light produced from the screen was patented by AT&T Corporation US 3016421A, Harmon, Leon D, "Electrographic transmitter", issued 1962-01-09. This touchscreen utilized a matrix of collimated lights shining orthogonally across the touch surface. When a beam is interrupted by a stylus, the photodetectors which no longer are receiving a signal can be used to determine where the interruption is. Later iterations of matrix based touchscreens built upon this by adding more emitters and detectors to improve resolution, pulsing emitters to improve optical signal to noise ratio, and a nonorthogonal matrix to remove shadow readings when using multi-touch.

The first finger driven touch screen was developed by Eric Johnson, of the Royal Radar Establishment located in Malvern, England, who described his work on capacitive touchscreens in a short article published in 1965[8][9] and then more fully—with photographs and diagrams—in an article published in 1967.[10] The application of touch technology for air traffic control was described in an article published in 1968.[11] Frank Beck and Bent Stumpe, engineers from CERN (European Organization for Nuclear Research), developed a transparent touchscreen in the early 1970s,[12] based on Stumpe's work at a television factory in the early 1960s. Then manufactured by CERN, and shortly after by industry partners,[13] it was put to use in 1973.[14]

In the mid-1960s, another precursor of touchscreens, an ultrasonic-curtain-based pointing device in front of a terminal display, had been developed by a team around Rainer Mallebrein [de] at Telefunken Konstanz for an air traffic control system.[15] In 1970, this evolved into a device named "Touchinput-Einrichtung" ("touch input facility") for the SIG 50 terminal utilizing a conductively coated glass screen in front of the display.[16][15] This was patented in 1971 and the patent was granted a couple of years later.[16][15] The same team had already invented and marketed the Rollkugel mouse RKS 100-86 for the SIG 100-86 a couple of years earlier.[16]

In 1972, a group at the University of Illinois filed for a patent on an optical touchscreen[17] that became a standard part of the Magnavox Plato IV Student Terminal and thousands were built for this purpose. These touchscreens had a crossed array of 16×16 infrared position sensors, each composed of an LED on one edge of the screen and a matched phototransistor on the other edge, all mounted in front of a monochrome plasma display panel. This arrangement could sense any fingertip-sized opaque object in close proximity to the screen. A similar touchscreen was used on the HP-150 starting in 1983. The HP 150 was one of the world's earliest commercial touchscreen computers.[18] HP mounted their infrared transmitters and receivers around the bezel of a 9-inch Sony cathode ray tube (CRT).

In 1977, an American company, Elographics – in partnership with Siemens – began work on developing a transparent implementation of an existing opaque touchpad technology, U.S. patent No. 3,911,215, October 7, 1975, which had been developed by Elographics' founder George Samuel Hurst.[19] The resulting resistive technology touch screen was first shown on the World's Fair at Knoxville in 1982.[20]

In 1984, Fujitsu released a touch pad for the Micro 16 to accommodate the complexity of kanji characters, which were stored as tiled graphics.[21] In 1985, Sega released the Terebi Oekaki, also known as the Sega Graphic Board, for the SG-1000 video game console and SC-3000 home computer. It consisted of a plastic pen and a plastic board with a transparent window where pen presses are detected. It was used primarily with a drawing software application.[22] A graphic touch tablet was released for the Sega AI computer in 1986.[23][24]

Touch-sensitive control-display units (CDUs) were evaluated for commercial aircraft flight decks in the early 1980s. Initial research showed that a touch interface would reduce pilot workload as the crew could then select waypoints, functions and actions, rather than be "head down" typing latitudes, longitudes, and waypoint codes on a keyboard. An effective integration of this technology was aimed at helping flight crews maintain a high level of situational awareness of all major aspects of the vehicle operations including the flight path, the functioning of various aircraft systems, and moment-to-moment human interactions.[25]

In the early 1980s, General Motors tasked its Delco Electronics division with a project aimed at replacing an automobile's non-essential functions (i.e. other than throttle, transmission, braking, and steering) from mechanical or electro-mechanical systems with solid state alternatives wherever possible. The finished device was dubbed the ECC for "Electronic Control Center", a digital computer and software control system hardwired to various peripheral sensors, servos, solenoids, antenna and a monochrome CRT touchscreen that functioned both as display and sole method of input.[26] The ECC replaced the traditional mechanical stereo, fan, heater and air conditioner controls and displays, and was capable of providing very detailed and specific information about the vehicle's cumulative and current operating status in real time. The ECC was standard equipment on the 1985–1989 Buick Riviera and later the 1988–1989 Buick Reatta, but was unpopular with consumers—partly due to the technophobia of some traditional Buick customers, but mostly because of costly technical problems suffered by the ECC's touchscreen which would render climate control or stereo operation impossible.[27]

Multi-touch technology began in 1982, when the University of Toronto's Input Research Group developed the first human-input multi-touch system, using a frosted-glass panel with a camera placed behind the glass. In 1985, the University of Toronto group, including Bill Buxton, developed a multi-touch tablet that used capacitance rather than bulky camera-based optical sensing systems (see History of multi-touch).

The first commercially available graphical point-of-sale (POS) software was demonstrated on the 16-bit Atari 520ST color computer. It featured a color touchscreen widget-driven interface.[28] The ViewTouch[29] POS software was first shown by its developer, Gene Mosher, at the Atari Computer demonstration area of the Fall COMDEX expo in 1986.[30]

In 1987 the first touchscreen was developed for proximity sensing and accurate operation through very thick glass and double-glazing. This enabled touchscreens to be operated through shop windows.[31]

In 1987, Casio launched the Casio PB-1000 pocket computer with a touchscreen consisting of a 4×4 matrix, resulting in 16 touch areas in its small LCD graphic screen.

Touchscreens had a bad reputation of being imprecise until 1988. Most user-interface books would state that touchscreen selections were limited to targets larger than the average finger. At the time, selections were done in such a way that a target was selected as soon as the finger came over it, and the corresponding action was performed immediately. Errors were common, due to parallax or calibration problems, leading to user frustration. "Lift-off strategy"[32] was introduced by researchers at the University of Maryland Human–Computer Interaction Lab (HCIL). As users touch the screen, feedback is provided as to what will be selected: users can adjust the position of the finger, and the action takes place only when the finger is lifted off the screen. This allowed the selection of small targets, down to a single pixel on a 640×480 Video Graphics Array (VGA) screen (a standard of that time).

Sears et al. (1990)[33] gave a review of academic research on single and multi-touch human–computer interaction of the time, describing gestures such as rotating knobs, adjusting sliders, and swiping the screen to activate a switch (or a U-shaped gesture for a toggle switch). The HCIL team developed and studied small touchscreen keyboards (including a study that showed users could type at 25 wpm on a touchscreen keyboard), aiding their introduction on mobile devices. They also designed and implemented multi-touch gestures such as selecting a range of a line, connecting objects, and a "tap-click" gesture to select while maintaining location with another finger.

In 1990, HCIL demonstrated a touchscreen slider,[34] which was later cited as prior art in the lock screen patent litigation between Apple and other touchscreen mobile phone vendors (in relation to U.S. Patent 7,657,849).[35]

In 1991–1992, the Sun Star7 prototype PDA implemented a touchscreen with inertial scrolling.[36] In 1993, IBM released the IBM Simon the first touchscreen phone.

An early attempt at a handheld game console with touchscreen controls was Sega's intended successor to the Game Gear, though the device was ultimately shelved and never released due to the expensive cost of touchscreen technology in the early 1990s.

The first mobile phone with a capacitive touchscreen was LG Prada released in May 2007 (which was before the first iPhone).[37] By 2009, touchscreen-enabled mobile phones were becoming trendy and quickly gaining popularity in both basic and advanced devices.[38][39] In Q4 2009 for the first time, a majority of smartphones (i.e. not all mobile phones) shipped with touchscreens over non-touch.[40]

koliko vidim u povijesti touchscreena koja ide do šezdesetih, a osamdesetih je već bila široko komercijalizirana u nekim područjima, se nigdje ne spominje EI Niš (koji je štancao cijevi na telefunkenovim strojevima koje su dobili kao ratnu reparaciju, s tim da te cijevi nisu sjena telefunkenovih)

michaellcmacha wrote:

Serbinho-3 wrote:Tada je sve bilo skupo, jedna Adidas Tango lopta 100 njemačkih maraka. Kasnije uletela Globalizacija, zatvorila Ei Niš po Zapadu i krenula priča prema Aziji. Lopta Tango više nije koštao 100 njemačkih maraka, već si imao za 15-20 njemačkih maraka i mogao si sve kupiti. To je nakon raspada Jugoslavije. Zatim su neki pomislili da ovo sada mogu više, ali to je zbog selidbe industrije u Aziji.

Opet lupaš, nije se tada preselila industrija, nego 25 godina ranije...

 a jesu vam domoljubi lijepo objasnili da nam ne treba industrija samo obrtnici i mala poduzeca 
za proizvodnju magle naravno 


a pošto kod nas svi sve znaju i imaju objašnjenje da je za propast industrije u RH KRIV TITO , onda smo tu gdje jesmo
ukurcu

Serbinho-3 wrote:Miha zvuči kao da je sa Dorcole, jedini koji ovdje izgleda Hrvat, jeste Mentalitet, ostali Hrvatski i ne komuniciraju ili se to samo meni čini.

a mene stavi uz Mentaliteta slobodno
ovo ostalo su pohrvaćeni, polusrbi poluhrvati

i također u BUJAMA DIGITRON 
taj je jedini preživio ovaj totalitarizam

Sora wrote:

Serbinho-3 wrote:Miha zvuči kao da je sa Dorcole, jedini koji ovdje izgleda Hrvat, jeste Mentalitet, ostali Hrvatski i ne komuniciraju ili se to samo meni čini.

a mene stavi uz Mentaliteta slobodno
ovo ostalo su pohrvaćeni, polusrbi poluhrvati

Mentalitet stvarno Zagrepcanin, jedino kod njega osetis Zagreb. Marc sa jebote, ovi drugi manje Hrvatski od Sremaca po Sremu. Cak i Crvenkasti nista. Ko je tu zapravo pravi Hrvat, postavlja se pitanje.