Ivanka Trump and Jared Kushner Get Rabbinic Pass To Ride in Car on Inauguration Shabbat

"A leather-bound copy of Jewish teachings, the Pirkei Avot, sits on a wooden pedestal in the reception room, and identical silver mezuzahs adorn the side of each office door. The only decoration in his large, terraced boardroom is an oil painting of his grandparents, Holocaust survivors who immigrated to the U.S. after World War II."

nda, a neki Zidov nije htio zvati hitnu na sabat jer se radilo o Izraelskom Arapu, i rabini su poslije potvrdili da nije nis z grijesio

Triny wrote:"A leather-bound copy of Jewish teachings, the Pirkei Avot, sits on a wooden pedestal in the reception room, and identical silver mezuzahs adorn the side of each office door. The only decoration in his large, terraced boardroom is an oil painting of his grandparents, Holocaust survivors who immigrated to the U.S. after World War II."

 E i ........................šta je sporno tu ?

Triny wrote:Updates to add details about Jewish law, other Sabbath observers’s experiences in politics.
Ivanka Trump and Jared Kushner have been given a free rabbinical pass to travel by car following Donald Trump’s inauguration Friday.

cijelo se vrijeme pitam (bez googla) u čemu je kvaka oko Trumpova izbora .. kad ono Trump je židovski punac... sad je sve puno jasnije

metilda wrote:

Triny wrote:Updates to add details about Jewish law, other Sabbath observers’s experiences in politics.
Ivanka Trump and Jared Kushner have been given a free rabbinical pass to travel by car following Donald Trump’s inauguration Friday.

cijelo se vrijeme pitam (bez googla) u čemu je kvaka oko Trumpova izbora .. kad ono Trump je židovski punac... sad je sve puno jasnije

Kako sad? tebi je jasnije a čitajući tebe meni više ništ ni jasno jer židovi su neoconsi koji su protiv Trumpa svi galame neoconsi na aparatimah a sad po tvojoj logici neoconsi tj. židovi doveli Trumpa u White house. What the fuck Is going on? Am I sleeping maybe sleepwalking?

Gnječ wrote:

metilda wrote:

Triny wrote:Updates to add details about Jewish law, other Sabbath observers’s experiences in politics.
Ivanka Trump and Jared Kushner have been given a free rabbinical pass to travel by car following Donald Trump’s inauguration Friday.

cijelo se vrijeme pitam (bez googla) u čemu je kvaka oko Trumpova izbora .. kad ono Trump je židovski punac... sad je sve puno jasnije

Kako sad? tebi je jasnije a čitajući tebe meni više ništ ni jasno jer židovi su neoconsi koji su protiv Trumpa svi galame neoconsi na aparatimah a sad po tvojoj logici neoconsi tj. židovi doveli Trumpa u White house. What the fuck Is going on? Am I sleeping maybe sleepwalking?

googlam... jer drugačije ne mogu ni saznati - Soros je židov koji je svoju obitelj nazvao antisemitskom...... podsjeća me to na Antu Tomića...

Soros je esprantovac..

problem je, ako je Trumpu mio Izrael, nis se ne mijenja, nema tu ni i od izolacionizma, jebat ce mu se ziv za Baltik, Ukrajinu i Balkan ali sta nas briga nama je bitniji Izrael oh wait.. NOT

kic wrote:
Soros je esprantovac..

problem je, ako je Trumpu mio Izrael, nis se ne mijenja, nema tu ni i od izolacionizma, jebat ce mu se ziv za Baltik, Ukrajinu i Balkan ali sta nas briga nama je bitniji Izrael oh wait.. NOT

Soros je neocon tu dileme nema možeš ti izmišljati egzotične nazive ali opet kad sve rasčlaniš dođemo do toga da je Soros neocon koji pod krinkom liberalizma i borbe za ljudska prava sprovodi liberalni nazi-fašizam. pitanje glasi: neoconsi cijelo vrijeme agitiraju protiv Trumpa a u isto vrijeme su za Trumpa i postavili ga za predsjednika USA. kako to?

metilda wrote:

kic wrote:
Soros je esprantovac..

problem je, ako je Trumpu mio Izrael, nis se ne mijenja, nema tu ni i od izolacionizma, jebat ce mu se ziv za Baltik, Ukrajinu i Balkan ali sta nas briga nama je bitniji Izrael oh wait.. NOT

štogod bio sosors, ako je trump izjavio da će glavni grad izraela biit jeruzalem i da  je borba protiv Islamske države prioritet cia-e te da radikalni islamski terorizam treba biti obrisan - ništa se pod kapom nebeskom neće promijeniti a možda bude još i gore...

ti disfunkcionalno razmišljaš a disfunkcionalno razmišljanje je katalizator i generator svih emocionalnih i psihičkih poremećaja. ja odbijam da me ti truješ takvim disfunkcionalnim meme virusom. odi do Neretve i okupaj se u ladnoj vodi pa se vrati.

Gnječ wrote:

metilda wrote:

kic wrote:
Soros je esprantovac..

problem je, ako je Trumpu mio Izrael, nis se ne mijenja, nema tu ni i od izolacionizma, jebat ce mu se ziv za Baltik, Ukrajinu i Balkan ali sta nas briga nama je bitniji Izrael oh wait.. NOT

štogod bio sosors, ako je trump izjavio da će glavni grad izraela biit jeruzalem i da  je borba protiv Islamske države prioritet cia-e te da radikalni islamski terorizam treba biti obrisan - ništa se pod kapom nebeskom neće promijeniti a možda bude još i gore...

ti disfunkcionalno razmišljaš a disfunkcionalno razmišljanje je katalizator i generator svih emocionalnih i psihičkih poremećaja. ja odbijam da me ti truješ takvim disfunkcionalnim meme virusom. odi do Neretve i okupaj se u ladnoj vodi pa se vrati.

ti ne znaš nego odgovarati ad hominem - je li to trump izjavio? jest - pa u čemu onda ja disfunkcionalno razmišljam?

metilda wrote:

Gnječ wrote:

metilda wrote:

kic wrote:
Soros je esprantovac..

problem je, ako je Trumpu mio Izrael, nis se ne mijenja, nema tu ni i od izolacionizma, jebat ce mu se ziv za Baltik, Ukrajinu i Balkan ali sta nas briga nama je bitniji Izrael oh wait.. NOT

štogod bio sosors, ako je trump izjavio da će glavni grad izraela biit jeruzalem i da  je borba protiv Islamske države prioritet cia-e te da radikalni islamski terorizam treba biti obrisan - ništa se pod kapom nebeskom neće promijeniti a možda bude još i gore...

ti disfunkcionalno razmišljaš a disfunkcionalno razmišljanje je katalizator i generator svih emocionalnih i psihičkih poremećaja. ja odbijam da me ti truješ takvim disfunkcionalnim meme virusom. odi do Neretve i okupaj se u ladnoj vodi pa se vrati.

ti ne znaš nego odgovarati ad hominem - je li to trump izjavio? jest - pa u čemu onda ja disfunkcionalno razmišljam?

nije ad hominem. ako ti smatraš da je ad hominem onda po tvojoj logici nitko s nikim ne bi pričao jer se skoro sve može etiketirati ad hominem. vrijeđao te nisam osim ako ti moje benevolentno opažanje i opasku smatraš uvredom i ad hominem onda jebiga so sorry. I znijela si svoj argument kao fatalističku dogmu i drugim riječima rekla to je tako i amen što je tipično za ljude koji imaju fatalističko disfunkcionalno razmišljanje a takvi gravitiraju oko religija i svih mogućih crkva.

Trump je rekao što je rekao možda će biti pragmatičniji od svojih predhodnika, i rvacki političari precjednica isto svašta obećaju pa nikad ne ispune obećanja i ti im vjeruješ? nadam se da ne jer ako im vjeruješ onda imaš issues.

A kako bi bilo da pustimo čovjeka da radi tek nije ni zasjeo a već znamo što lik misli i što će biti i što hoće-neće uraditi.

Priča je počela sa neoconsima postavio sam pitanje odgovora od forumske populacije nema, ti si to moje otvoreno pitanje brže bolje zapečatila fatalističkom dogmom. Razmišljaj malo šta je to tako teško?

Gnječ wrote:

kic wrote:
Soros je esprantovac..

problem je, ako je Trumpu mio Izrael, nis se ne mijenja, nema tu ni i od izolacionizma, jebat ce mu se ziv za Baltik, Ukrajinu i Balkan ali sta nas briga nama je bitniji Izrael oh wait.. NOT

Soros je neocon tu dileme nema možeš ti izmišljati egzotične nazive ali opet kad sve rasčlaniš dođemo do toga da je Soros neocon koji pod krinkom liberalizma i borbe za ljudska prava sprovodi liberalni nazi-fašizam. pitanje glasi: neoconsi cijelo vrijeme agitiraju protiv Trumpa a u isto vrijeme su za Trumpa i postavili ga za predsjednika USA. kako to?

jesam ja rekao da je Trumo neocon?

kic wrote:

Gnječ wrote:

kic wrote:
Soros je esprantovac..

problem je, ako je Trumpu mio Izrael, nis se ne mijenja, nema tu ni i od izolacionizma, jebat ce mu se ziv za Baltik, Ukrajinu i Balkan ali sta nas briga nama je bitniji Izrael oh wait.. NOT

Soros je neocon tu dileme nema možeš ti izmišljati egzotične nazive ali opet kad sve rasčlaniš dođemo do toga da je Soros neocon koji pod krinkom liberalizma i borbe za ljudska prava sprovodi liberalni nazi-fašizam. pitanje glasi: neoconsi cijelo vrijeme agitiraju protiv Trumpa a u isto vrijeme su za Trumpa i postavili ga za predsjednika USA. kako to?

jesam ja rekao da je Trumo neocon?

Ne razumijem tvoje pitanje možda sam nešto propustio?

svejedno,

I have written about the neocons for many years. Their originators were former leftists who later became anti-communists. After the collapse of communism, they provided the intellectual firepower for hawks and imperialists who wanted an aggressive American foreign policy. Having lived and done business for many years in the Third World, I thought they would only bring about disasters for America. What especially interested me was their almost total lack of experience in and knowledge about the outside world, particularly Asia and Latin America. I even set up a web page called War Party Neoconservative Biographies as I researched their education and experience.

Brilliant academics as many of them were, their “foreign” experience was at best a semester or two in London or, for the more daring, some studies in Paris or, for the Jewish ones, a summer on a kibbutz in Israel. They are above all Washington insiders. John Bolton is very typical. A summa cum laude graduate of Yale, then Yale Law School, time with a top Washington law firm, and then various academic and political appointments, but no foreign living or work experience. Also, as sheltered intellectuals, often in cluttered small offices, many found it exciting to imagine themselves ruling much of the world, like the old Roman proconsuls. Long ago Peter Viereck explained them with his observation about the vicarious “lust of many intellectuals for brute violence.” No wonder they urged Bush on to his disastrous war and occupation policies. Even before Iraq they were first urging dominance over Russia and then military confrontation with China, when a U.S. spy plane was collided by a Chinese fighter plane. It wasn’t just the Arab world which was in their sights.

I write about all this based on my own experience of studying in Germany and France, working 15 years in South America, and speaking four languages fluently.

Trump appointments so far are really showing his focus upon getting America back on track with faster economic growth, which has been so stunted by Obama’s runaway regulatory regime. To understand their costs, see analysis in the Competitive Enterprise Institute’s “Ten Thousand Commandments.” But more unending wars will continue to sap America’s strength and prejudice the world’s former goodwill toward our nation. Empires all eventually make a transition from where they are profitable to when they become destructively bankrupting. Few would now doubt that America has crossed this threshold. When it costs us a million dollars per year per man to field combat infantry in unending wars, we will face economic ruin just like happened with the Roman Empire.

The risk is that Trump’s foreign-affairs transition team becomes infiltrated. Much of the transition is being run out of the Heritage Foundation, which was a big promoter of the Iraq War. Mainly, however, Vice President Mike Pence, who heads up the transition team, was another war wanter and still supports the neoconservative agenda—e.g., he strongly supported the attack on Libya. He also wants much more military spending. Pence is great on domestic issues but not on foreign policy.

http://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/trump-and-the-neoconservatives/

Gnječ wrote:

kic wrote:
Soros je esprantovac..

problem je, ako je Trumpu mio Izrael, nis se ne mijenja, nema tu ni i od izolacionizma, jebat ce mu se ziv za Baltik, Ukrajinu i Balkan ali sta nas briga nama je bitniji Izrael oh wait.. NOT

Soros je neocon tu dileme nema možeš ti izmišljati egzotične nazive ali opet kad sve rasčlaniš dođemo do toga da je Soros neocon koji pod krinkom liberalizma i borbe za ljudska prava sprovodi liberalni nazi-fašizam. pitanje glasi: neoconsi cijelo vrijeme agitiraju protiv Trumpa a u isto vrijeme su za Trumpa i postavili ga za predsjednika USA. kako to?

E daaaa....

War Party Neoconservative Biographies --Few neocons ever worked in business (or military), lived abroad, or know much about the outside world

The War Party's Neoconservative Empire Wanters most common characteristic is knowing little about the outside world and especially the Third World. Almost all are Washington "policy wonks," meaning smart intellectuals from top universities with top grades who spent their lives in Washington, rarely speak foreign languages or ever lived overseas, except possibly for a semester in England, (more rarely, France). Most have had no experience in business, nor served in the military, nor have children in the military, nor know much about Asia, Africa or South America.

Although "neoconservative" used to mean former leftists who had migrated to the Republican Party in Reagan times, it now encompasses all those conservatives who seek military empire or who want (or profit from) wars as their primary option. For their six main characteristics see Neoconservatives, Washington's War Party. In fairness to them they are not just Arab-Israel focused, as some critics argue. Before 9/11, many (Gaffney, Kristol, Kagan) were keen for military conflict with China, that is any war would do for their interests and for their vicarious lust for violence (see Peter Viereck quote on intellectuals who lust for brute violence).

http://www.againstbombing.com/warparty-biographies.htm

7 Habits of Highly Effective Imperialists

1. Be serious about your imperialism —the Great Game is not for dilettantes.

2. Get the locals to like you.

If Habit #2 doesn’t work, then try Habit #3.

3. Be ruthless.

4. Got allies? You’ll need some.

5. Be realistic.

6. Leave quickly—and set up a puppet government.

7. Brace yourself for tragedy.

http://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/7-habits-of-highly-effective-imperialists/

Know the enemy: Who are the Neocons?


Neoconservatives are pro-bombing, pro-empire Washington policy wonks (almost never with a business or military background) who have filled the vacuum on the Right, where most Americans have little interest in foreign policy and know little about foreign nations. They dominate Republican foreign policy because they care about it, whereas most Americans don't. NATO expansion was an example; most Americans don't think about it and don't care. "Neo-cons" do. If they leave the Republican Party in ruins after the next election, they can easily return to the Democratic Party from whence they came. One editor explains, "Neoconservatives can trace their roots to Trotskyist anti-Stalinism." They are close to the European Social Democrats. They support the welfare state and are seldom heard from in the battles to preserve constitutional freedoms.

Americans, who have lived abroad and know foreign cultures, are rarely "Neocons." Indeed Neoconservatives themselves are notable for their absence of experience in foreign nations (except sometimes England, or, more rarely France), most never lived abroad, don't speak foreign languages, and never served in the military themselves. They provide the brains, while the Military/Industrial/Congressional complex provides the brawn of the WAR PARTY, meaning those who want, or thrive during, wars or preparation for war.

Often allied with neo-cons are other minor players with particular interests. One is the "English Contingent," that is Englishmen who want to see an American World Empire on the mode of England's old imperium. Another are European origin ethnics such as Zbigniew Brzezinski, who have particular nationalist concerns, e.g. wanting to prevent Russia from returning to any imperialist intentions or abilities by having NATO expand to look after Poland and a beneficent American empire. However, he well understands that America becoming the enemy of the Moslem world will curtail American power in the whole Eastern Hemisphere and eventually strengthen Russia. It is already having the effect of weakening American/European ties. Brzezinski wants peace with the Arabs, unlike the Neo-con empire wanters.

A key leader of the neo-cons and with a typical background is Richard Perle. (More Perle and even more on his other conflicts of interest). His WHO'S WHO biography shows a lifetime in government or academic work with foreign study only in England. See AMERICAN PROSPECT for more on Perle. Another, John Bolton, now Assistant Secretary of State, is a Phi Beta Kappa from Yale, but also with no little foreign affairs education until becoming Chief Counsel (a lawyer job) for the Agency for International Development during the Reagan Administration. He is noted for arguing that international law should have no validity because it might constrict U.S. unilateralism abroad. (See link to his name). There has now (update 3/13/03) been a major breakthrough in discussion with Perle questioned on Meet the Press about his loyalties.

FLASH Buchanan Shines Media into Neo-con Swamp 3/03 TOLEDO BLADE Breakthru on Neo-Cons running Bush Administration

Now we also have William Bennett leading a collection of Neo-cons (Americans for Victory over Terrorism) with a full page ad in the NEW YORK TIMES. He is subsidized by pro-Likud fund raiser Lawrence Kadish from Florida.

The "Neo-con" flagship publications are the NEW REPUBLIC, WEEKLY STANDARD (a recent editorial urged that any budget surplus be used to buy more weaponry) and COMMENTARY; but "Neo-cons" equally control the editorial pages of the WALL STREET JOURNAL (it's op-ed distortions and even lies are the worst of all major newspapers at ever printing a non War Party view or arguments of anti-Sharon/Settler Israelis, and NATIONAL REVIEW (although Buckley's columns are less so, he delivered NR into Neo-con War Party hands). The WASHINGTON POST is fair, but its main columnists, especially Will and Krauthamer are solid war/empire promoters The NEW YORK TIMES editorial page is very fair with different opinions. The WASHINGTON TIMES definitely supports empire but does publish a few varied opinions. The CHICAGO TRIBUNE publishes some very fair op-eds. FOREIGN AFFAIRS publishes excellent analyses. To understand the differences, it's worth keeping in mind that New York thrives on and thinks of trade. Washington thinks and thrives from war. "War is the Health of the State" (read Big Government), is the classic proverb of Randolph Bourne.

The Kosovo war weakened the "neocons" past virtual control of conservative publications on foreign policy, but 9/11 was a Godsend for them; now they rule President George Bush. The WASHINGTON TIMES, for example, published many anti-empire views during the Kosovo war, but now has returned to publishing almost only neo-conservative op-eds. It rarely publishes any op-ed reflecting Jewish or Israeli views for compromise and peace in order to make the appearance that all Jews favor the LIKUD and settlements on the West Bank.

In Washington "neocon" views dominate the major networks' Sunday talk shows, but MEET THE PRESS' Tim Rustert is pretty good and balanced. They are specifically represented by Bill Kristol (WEEKLY STANDARD), Paul Wolfowitz, Fred Barnes, Morton Kondracke, Elliot Abrams, Charles Krauthammer, Frank Gaffney (former aid to Richard Perle and WASHINGTON TIMES columnist), Robert Kagan (Carnegie Endowment for International Peace), columnist Cal Thomas, a dispensationalist, and others. Strong opposition to the Neocon line is presented on CNN by Robert Novak and formerly by Pat Buchanan and all over the INTERNET. Also on NBC by John McLaughlin of the Group, who last 11/15/99 brought attention to the plight of "500,000" dead Iraqi children from the UN/US blockade. You'll never hear "Neocons" express much sympathy for the civilian casualties of their wars. In the print media there is much open resistance to the "neocons" by Paul Craig Roberts, Joseph Sobran, Charley Reece, Don Feder (at least as far as Europe is concerned-not for the Middle East) and others. See Conservatives opposed to bombing. from WASHINGTON TIMES. See also War Wanters Biographies--Few Know Outside World

"Neoconservatives" are mostly former leftists/liberals who converted to conservatism during the '70's and when Ronald Reagan became President. In domestic policy they tend to be moderate "welfare" Republicans. However, their major concern is foreign policy. They strongly favor US military interventions overseas and becoming the world’s policeman. They promoted the First Iraq War and are constantly the instigators for more confrontation with Iraq, Iran, the Sudan, and other Moslem states. They were among the chief instigators of the Kosovo War.

"Neocons" never explain reasons for terrorists' hatred towards America, because that would bring questions about the "costs" of having a world empire. So they "explain" terrorists as just "crazies" who enjoy killing people, just because they oppose freedom and American values. Typical is Washington's neo-con CENTER FOR STRATEGIC AND INTERNATIONAL STUDIES, which released a long analysis of terrorism in December. Foreign terrorists are simply described as those who "resent re-eminent U.S. power and/or have disdain for the West."

In the Middle East they support the most intransigent elements in Israel and the Likud Party for occupation and new settlements (a large percentage of the settlers are Americans) on Arab lands. (the "idiotic settlements," Thomas Friedman NY TIMES, 11/24, calls them). Polls show that most Israelis want peace and compromise, but they are undermined by the American Neoconservatives who denouce any compromise peace which would allow the cutting back of American military forces in the Middle East. Among conservatives they are not alone in this position. Key leaders of the "Religious Right" also promote the settlements, some openly arguing that they will help to bring about "Armageddon" and the return of Christ. (See Some Fundamentalists Ache for Armageddon). On the extreme fringe of the religious right are the Dispensationalists (quite long-scroll down to "War in the Heavens").

Neoconservatives are the dominant force over establishment Republicans in Congress (although here again Kosovo weakened them a bit) and in most of the major conservative think tanks. Their main base among think tanks is the AMERICAN ENTERPRISE INSTITUTE (a policy paper in January, 2001, urges American attacks on Iran, Iraq, Libya, Syria, and Gaza). Others are the HERITAGE FOUNDATION (see more below--modified after Kosovo), ETHICS AND PUBLIC POLICY CENTER, and BROOKINGS INSTITUTION. Of the large think tanks only the CATO INSTITUTE and LUDWIG VON MISES INSTITUTE actively oppose their positions. The Kosovo disaster caused HERITAGE to pull back from its former strongly interventionist positions, e.g. favoring NATO expansion, but it is now in full battle cry for war with Iraq. "Neo-con" power comes from their knowledge and political credentials in matters of foreign affairs (European, not 3rd World or Asian) and because of their influence over the giant Foundations (Bradley, Olin, Scaife) which provide major funding for pro-interventionist think tanks. Also some gain major financial support from many weapons manufacturers. The NEW YORK TIMES reported recently how such industries were a major factor promoting NATO expansion to East Europe and then paying for the recent NATO anniversary celebrations in Washington. There are billions to be made in outfitting weapons for new NATO members, and they'll want Washington to lend or pay for it, e.g. (update-Jan/03, F-16's for Poland, billions put up by U.S. taxpayers).

The old military industrial complex is now called the MICC, military/industrial/congressional complex. This was particularly evident during the bombing of Serbia when freshmen and sophmore Republican congressmen were mainly in oppostion, while all the old Senate Republican Commmittee Chairmen supported it.

"Neocons" are the brains of the "War Party." They are well-organized, very well-financed, and very focused. Their members know what they want---American Empire, Cold War level military spending, lots of new weapons, and a globalist policing mission that would project American military power deep into Asia and all points in between.